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MTS email change DISREGARD WpgFreePress mention of transition Tool
by jd 01 Mar '15

01 Mar '15

Hello All _ _ This notice has very little to do with the normal proceedings of a group happily focussed on *nix. HOWEVER .. many of US do service Customers outside that happy world .. and .. Redmond hath spoken .. and .. _ _ Many of our Customers have been receiving MTS notices recently, about "CHANGES". There is suggestion of a "window" to respond to a transit/MIGRATE away from the current [ms-withdrawn] email service, to MTS/Alliance -hosted service, now called "MTS Mail". ( Does this ring a bell ? Yes. Only four years back. Let's not go into those old, buggy extrusions .. for now.) Today's (2015-02-28) WpgFreePress had a G.Kirbyson article, quoting a MTS/Alliance honcho " .. Melanie McKague, director of corporate communications and community investment .. " saying there is a "slick tool" ON THE WEBSITE. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/frustratingmtsnet-292868671.html This came as some surprise to an internal source, with whom I spoke this (28th) evening. I had entertained a call from (more than) one client - to help with transition. So, I showed up at one customer's site tonight. I am not cheap. No such "tool" was to be found. This made things UNCOMFORABLE, to say the least. And that, from all of our-side good intentions, adequate advance notice by MTS/Alliance emals to so many, to the subject, AND today's major-media publication, SAYING THERE WAS A TOOL ON THEIR WEBSITE. Our very helpful MTS/Alliance tech (sshh:Thomas), whom I was able to contact later in the evening's sortie, said he [paraphrase] <<had instructions to "not encourage" use of that tool>> for MOVING EMAIL OFF MS, onto MTS/Alliance's new scheme. YET. He also invited a [forward] of the clients (there are more than one) who received emails describing "15 days" .. "window deadline" .. etc. Go ahead .. waste your time on the rather wordy, ostensibly helpful FAQ page at MTS/Alliance. [Yawn] THERE IS NO DIRECT LINK, as of this last evening (Feb.28) TO ANY SUCH TOOL, contrary to the FP interview's MTS contact's statement (her word "slick" may resonate). BESIDES: There will be numerous reasons for us to hold back from "jumping on" with any transition tool, if our experience(s) with up to 3rd iteration/revision of "helpful tool" from 4yrs back, would be any indication. This unilateral withdrawal of service by <<golden opportunity outsource>> [quote:cca2010] Microsoft .. from hapless, trusting-in-outsource victim/sucker MTS/Alliance is actually deadlined (beside local discussions of "window") for the end of 2015. NOW, we, in jeopardy, in practical terms, should expect the real window, before [further unilateral] withdrawal of this ill-fated proxy delegation, should be a bit short of that. I will encourage my people to observe, patiently, at least a month of commentary about whatever "slick tool" is on offer, as to how it succeeds in data migration, before we attempt any transition. I DO NOT SUGGEST "WE" BECOME SUCH A FORUM .. although I would look to "our" discussion before many others' discussions. I immediately took an inventory of [my clients in the range of] people I expect to help through this horrid [re-]imposition. MANY are NOT INDEPENDENT of WHERE THEIR EMAIL DATA RESIDES. By this, I mean that Enough of those people happened to trust the rather big service providers (MTS/Alliance, Microsoft) and STAYED WITH REMOTE ACCESS (webclient) meaning REMOTE DATA. MEANING they will have to RELY ON A MIGRATION TOOL, should they "need" their email data to survive [again]. Of course, real transitions, especially for such IMAP, or POPx clients, who do not use local clients (who do not have full copy at a local station), will have to be CAREFULLY MANAGED. TheEasySide: Should you have a customer using (across the board of their nway field of mtsEmailClients) Local Clients [meaning local client (e.g:TBird on POPx) has recently fetched all traffic / all content] then you need worry less about Data in the transition. Simply change your source links' parameters, on a slow night/wknd. IN ADVANCE, should you choose to move your clients to a local-client (local data) scheme, like Thunderbird, then after the initial huge-sync, you only have to manage any duplicate fetch-stations, and either make them all say "Leave Data On Server", or pick a station to be BossOfEmail. If your customers have been using MS' webclient or other MS-approach - YOU WILL NEED TO CAREFULLY perform the "eventual" MTS migration tool procedure. [sigh] John D

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Re: [RndTbl] Funny comment_2
by jd 01 Mar '15

01 Mar '15

gem wars perl -vs- ruby should they agree ? Or will a Wall factor prevail ? Keeping tuned .. smiles, John D planet Brandon On 15-02-28 12:00 PM, roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca wrote: > Send Roundtable mailing list submissions to > roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > roundtable-owner(a)muug.mb.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Roundtable digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Funny comment (Trevor Cordes) > 2. Re: Funny comment (Sean Walberg) > > > _______________________________________________ > Roundtable mailing list > Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable

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threaded CP exists
by Grigory Shamov 23 Feb '15

23 Feb '15

Hi All, There exist a threaded and (even MPI-parallel) 'cp' for large/parallel filesystems. http://people.nas.nasa.gov/~kolano/projects/mutil.html It is a bit of pain to build as it patches a particular version of GNU coreutils. -- Grigory Shamov Westgrid/ComputeCanada Site Lead University of Manitoba E2-588 EITC Building, (204) 474-9625

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Some servers needing homes.
by Sean Cody 22 Feb '15

22 Feb '15

Complex Games wanted to forward along some 1U servers that need homes. The Dual-Cores for $125, the Quad Cores for $150. Xeon 5160: http://ark.intel.com/products/27219/Intel-Xeon-Processor-5160-4M-Cache-3_00… Xeon X5355: http://ark.intel.com/products/28035/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5355-8M-Cache-2_6… Both types of systems can do virtualization well with both KVM/Xen and vmware. The SAS drives should be replaceable with SATA drives (vanilla 3.5") should that be a concern as the controller supports both. If you know folks needing an extra bit of horsepower at a VERY decent price (or wish to make a counter offer), you can contact Noah at Complex Games (surprisingly noah at complex games dot calm). Tag Model CPU Clock Speed(GHz) Cores RAM(GB) HDD1(GB) HDD2(GB) Other Inf PE-1950- 01 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon 5160 3 2 4 146 146 SAS Drives, Dual Core 02 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon 5160 3 2 4 146 146 SAS Drives, Dual Core 03 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon 5160 3 2 4 146 146 SAS Drives, Dual Core 04 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon 5160 3 2 4 146 146 SAS Drives, Dual Core 05 Dell PowerEdge 1950 146 146 SAS Drives, NO CPU, NO RAM, NO RAID Controller 06 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 07 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 08 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 09 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 10 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 11 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 12 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 13 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 14 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 8 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core 15 Dell PowerEdge 1950 Intel Xeon X5355 2.66 4 4 146 146 SAS Drives, Quad Core -- Sean

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USB flash memory stick wipeout
by Hartmut W Sager 21 Feb '15

21 Feb '15

Hello all, I have had a wipout of 3 Kingston DataTraveller 16 GB and one Duracell 32 GB USB flash memory sticks. Not only is the data lost, they can't even be reformatted! (The data loss is no calamity - it was a duplicate backup.) The one misbehaviour I had thoughtlessly done: For about 9 months long, these sticks were stored in an above-counter kitchen cabinet, on the bottom level, and that cabinet has an under-the-cabinet 24-inch fluorescent fixture (tube and ballast) for illuminating the countertop. I switched it on and off a few times a day. The USB sticks were stored about 8 inches / 20 cm away from one end of the fluorescent fixture, i.e., not quite directly above the fixture (otherwise the separation would only have been 1 inch / 2.5 cm). So, does anyone know whether USB flash memory sticks (and presumably flash memory camera cards too) are particularly sensitive to electro-magnetic or other disturbances? And what about smartphones? My smartphone was in a similar position for about 6 months, but is still working perfectly. (It's not there anymore!) Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331, +1-204-515-1701

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Lenovo battery recall
by Trevor Cordes 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

This is from last year, but some may have not seen it yet. It means a brand new free battery if you are affected: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122 Executive summary: units shipped approx Oct 2010 and Apr 2011 incl: ThinkPad T410, T420, T510, W510, X100E, X120E, X200, X201, X201s Series Edge 11, Edge 13, and Edge 14 Series Must match battery serial #'s against the web site.

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SMS w les
by Dan Keizer 16 Feb '15

16 Feb '15

Hi there -- at the last meeting, a small discussion was had on SMS options, specifically with les. Has anyone found any API information for this yet? Thanks. Dan.

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Trying to open port 36141:TCP for PCI Compliance test
by Tyhr Trubiak 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

I'm trying to have a site host on Red Hat 6.3 PCI compliant through myControlScan. The only failure I have is that port 36141:TCP is being blocked somehow/somewhere, and I do not know where or how to find out. It is blocked from other servers on the network as well as itself. # nc -zv 127.0.0.1 36141 nc: connect to 127.0.0.1 port 36141 (tcp) failed: Connection refused (same result when using nc -zv localhost 36141 as well as the website ip address) 36141:TCP should be open according to iptables. (iptable list shown below) # netstat -lnp | grep 36141 (shows nothing) traceroute gets to myControlScan (207.198.99.3) via default settings, port 80, port 80 TCP, and port 36141, BUT not 36141:TCP. Confused. # traceroute -p 36141 -P TCP 207.198.99.3 traceroute to 207.198.99.3 (207.198.99.3), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 * * * 2 *^C # traceroute -p 36141 207.198.99.3 traceroute to 207.198.99.3 (207.198.99.3), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 67.22.106.161 (67.22.106.161) 0.679 ms 0.734 ms 0.873 ms 2 66.11.145.82 (66.11.145.82) 1.965 ms 1.963 ms 1.936 ms 3 ae1-200.tor10.ip4.gtt.net (77.67.79.185) 1.890 ms 1.867 ms 1.839 ms 4 xe-7-0-1.dal33.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.180.246) 51.948 ms 51.940 ms 51.916 ms 5 peer1-gw.ip4.gtt.net (77.67.71.30) 38.730 ms 38.730 ms 38.701 ms iptable list below: ----------------- # iptables -nL Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT tcp -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:36141 DROP tcp -- 195.190.13.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 tcp DROP tcp -- 91.217.10.0/23 0.0.0.0/0 tcp DROP tcp -- 91.207.8.0/23 0.0.0.0/0 tcp DROP tcp -- 91.207.4.0/22 0.0.0.0/0 tcp DROP tcp -- 91.207.7.21 0.0.0.0/0 tcp ACCEPT all -- 172.16.100.1 0.0.0.0/0 ACCEPT all -- 172.16.101.102 0.0.0.0/0 ACCEPT all -- 172.22.25.53 0.0.0.0/0 ACCEPT tcp -- 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 ACCEPT tcp -- 10.200.139.34 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 ACCEPT tcp -- 10.200.139.35 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.164 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 REJECT tcp -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 reject-with icmp-port-unreachable Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT tcp -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:36141 Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT tcp -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:36141 ACCEPT tcp -- 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 ACCEPT tcp -- 10.200.139.34 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 ACCEPT tcp -- 10.200.139.35 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.164 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 DROP tcp -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:111 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any thoughts or ideas? Thanks, Tyhr

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MUUG Meeting, Feb 10, 7:30pm -- SaltStack for SysAdmins
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 05 Feb '15

05 Feb '15

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, February 10. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: SaltStack for SysAdmins Theo Baschak will be presenting how to use SaltStack to make your life easier, whether you administer a few hobby servers or an entire fleet of corporate systems. Enforce good SysAdmin (planning/testing/backup) skills by publishing templated configs! Run security updates on all your systems at once. Run pre-defined distributed Nagios host/service checks via the new Nagios module! For those that haven't heard of SaltStack before, it is a configuration management system that enforces state. It is usually compared with Puppet and Chef, and has been gaining popularity over the last few years. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ***************************************************************** Please note our *NEW* meeting location for this month: Room 1M28, Manitoba Hall, University of Winnipeg, entrance on Ellice Ave. between Spence St. and Balmoral St. Parking is available on the surrounding streets and in the lots on nearby streets. Look for signage once you're at the building, or ask a security guard. ***************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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WTB (or WTR?) optical disc cases, ddr3
by Trevor Cordes 03 Feb '15

03 Feb '15

I'm in need to a few misc items that are pretty useless to most people these days. I'm willing to buy (WTB, ie cash) or "recycle" (WTR, ie take them for free) them if anyone has any. Can just meet up at a meeting, or if you don't make meetings I don't mind picking them up. - DVD-R / CD-R spindles: just the empty 50 or 100+ cartons that blank optical media comes in, you know the cylindrical things with the pole in the middle? - CD jewel cases: just the old-style audio CD ones, that software used to come in too. I need lots. (Normal size most needed, but the double and quad disc cases I can use too, as well as European "maxi-single" sizes. But "slimline" cases for CD-R's etc are not useful for me.) - Small DDR3 (1333+) sticks of RAM, like 1GB (or maybe 2G) sticks that are probably useless to most people now. I can only seem to buy 4G sticks these days. I'd take smaller than 1G but I don't think they ever sold 512's in DDR3. I only need a couple/few for testing purposes. Must be cheap. Plus, if anyone wants any 15 and 17" CRT (VGA-input) monitors that still work great, let me know, I have a few I need to clear out (free!), otherwise they are going into recycling. Thanks!

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