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Software Patents
by John Lange 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

I'm new to MUUG so I hope this isn't out of line for the mailing list... As I'm sure most of you are aware, there has been a lot of activity recently in the European Union regarding software patents. Understandably, many OpenSource advocates were mortified that the EU was considering passing a bill which many perceived as opening the door to software patents similar to the system currently in place in the US. While I was thinking how grateful I am that I live in country without absurd software patent laws I suddenly had a horrifying thought... Exactly what is the state of software patents in Canada? I have heard rumours the US is strong-arming other nations into adopting legislation similar to the DMCA so can software patents be far behind? If there was a change to patent legislation in the works to allow software patents in Canada, would we be able to get organized enough to make our views known to legislators as they have done in the EU? On the other hand, should we be waiting until legislation is already on the table, or is there something pro-active we can do? -- John Lange BigHostBox.com ltd (204) 885 0872 Toll free: 1-866-690-8297

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RH8 CD's?
by Shawn Wallbridge 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Does anyone have any RedHat 8 CD's I could borrow tonight? Or have a link to a fast (ie, > 20KB/s) server? I need them kind of urgently. thanks shawn

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Call for nominations -- reminder
by Sean A. Walberg 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

There is a little over a week to go before nominations for the MUUG board close... ----- This is a call for nominees to participate in the election for the MUUG board. Those elected will serve from October 2003 until October 2004. The deadline to nominate yourself, or someone else, is September 30, 2003. Instructions follow. The MUUG board is charged with coordinating the meetings and other events by the group. It's fun, and you get a role in guiding the group. All are encouraged to apply. ----------------------- MUUG Board Elections - Call for Nominations Every October the Manitoba Unix User Group holds its Annual Meeting, the main goals of which are to elect a new Board of Directors and to pass any special resolutions. (Aside from that, it is a regular meeting) Any member in good standing can be nominated to run for a position. As of this writing, the following people have been nominated. Gilbert Detillieux Kevin McGregor Doug Shewfelt Adam Thompson To put your name on the list, do the following: 1. Ensure your membership is in good standing (ie do you have to renew?) 2. Find another member willing to second your nomination 3. Email your nomination to <election(a)muug.mb.ca>, with a CC to your seconder 4. Get your seconder to send an email to <election(a)muug.mb.ca> indicating their support for your nomination It is important to include the following information in your nomination: Name, Title, Employer/Occupation, short (100 word) biography. Without this information, we can't put together the list of nominees to give to the rest of the members, can we? In the event the number of nominees is fewer than the number of vacant positions, all will be accepted by acclamation. If there are more, decision will be made by secret ballot at the Annual Meeting. Nominees should familiarize themselves with the MUUG bylaws, found at http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/bylaws/. Any questions about the election or the nomination process can be directed to Sean Walberg at the election(a)muub.mb.ca mailbox, or by phone at 975-5987 during business hours. Again, the deadline for nominations is September 30, 2003, with the election being held at the October 14th meeting. Good luck to all, Sean Walberg -- Sean A. Walberg <sean(a)ertw.com> http://www.ertw.com

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Roundtable meeting, 7:00pm Thursday, Sept 18th 2003
by Shawn Wallbridge 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

As discussed at the monthly MUUG meeting, we will be having a second 'roundtable' style meeting at the Second Cup on Edmonton and Graham at 7:00pm on Thursday. thanks shawn

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802.11 info query
by Dan Keizer 08 Sep '03

08 Sep '03

... warning .. kinda long message ... :-| Hi all ... I recently picked up a d-link DI-614+ wireless router recently (actually, two of them as they were basically giving them away!). It's a 802.11b access point (with the obligatory switched 4port router) ... it doesn't support router-to-router wireless connectivity itself (that's in a different model i think) ... so I'm looking for a wireless card for my pc and/or my laptop ... Since this model of the d-link product line is the "air plus" line which use their so-called enhanced 802.11b by bumping it up to 22Mbps ... as it utilizes the TI PBCC modulation on their ACX100 chipsets. I thought I could use that with my linux installation, but the driver for the TI chipset is not "production" yet as it's still in development as TI hasn't released any real technical information about it's chipset... (hiss, boo) so my question .. has anyone used or tried to use these chipsets from TI with any success? (under linux of course) .. I found some info on various sites, but also the wlan site: ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/FAQ As for other options, I could just buy a USB wireless adapter (as i'm interested in swapping it now and then with my pc upstairs with my laptop) ... from what I read, they appear to work for the most part depending upon the chipset used .. seems prism is by far the most widely supported ... I think I even recall reading that the atmel usb-based wireless adapters are not supported ... so there seems to be various chipsets supported under various interfaces. It even appears that the rf-mon feature of apps like kismet ( http://kismetwireless.net ) are not supported on the usb interface or atmel adapter or some such . Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on options? I recently looked at some cards from various local vendors and came up with the following: netgear MA101 (usb1.1) $90 http://www.netgear.com/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=105&view= NE nwu11b-ca (usb1.1) $100 http://www.networkeverywhere.com/products/nwu11b.asp Linksys WUSB11-ca v2.6 (usb1.1) $75 http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?grid=22&prid=174 MS MN-510 $100 (choke) http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/broadbandnetworking/wirelessusbadapter.as… SMC SMC2662W $80 http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?sec=Products&pg=Product-Details&prod=268&site=c DLINK DWL-650+ $70 (that's the TI-based chipset) (and it's pcmcia, not usb) http://www.dlink.ca/products/DigitalHome/Wireless/dwl650+/ ... any info greatly appreciated ... I thought I'd raise the question at the upcoming muug meeting and thought that if I broadcasted it now, I might get further info as well :-) ... I'm probably looking at buying something fairly soon, so I'm still on an information gathering spree ... Thanks. Dan.

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MUUG Meeting, Sept 9, 7:30PM -- Regular Expressions
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

[Posted to muug.unix.general and other news groups] ------ Forwarded Article <bj2vv5$sqk$1(a)canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> ------ From gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, September 9. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Regular Expressions In our September meeting Steve Moffat will be talking about Regular Expressions. Some say the "Generalized Regular Expression Parser", or grep, may be the most frequently used command in Unix. Using this simple command more effectively can save you time and give you better results every day. Whether it is grep, egrep, fgrep, perl, or any of the other programs that use or support text pattern matching, you can use Unix better if you know what Regular Expressions can do for you. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30 PM on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our new meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15 PM, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30 PM. Don't be late, or you may not get in. Limited parking is available for free on the street, or in a lot across Ellice from IBM, for $1.00 for the evening. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $2.00 for the evening. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Also note that MUUG maintains two mailing lists, called "muug-announce" and "roundtable". If you're not already on these lists, we encourage you to subscribe now: http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/ The "muug-announce" list is used for monthly meeting announcements (such as this one) as well as other important announcements of interest to MUUG members. The "rountable" list is meant to be a forum for follow-ups to topics discussed at the meetings, or for round-table-style discussion on other topics that come up between meetings. Of course, for this to be effective, we need to reach a certain critical mass. So, please subscribe, and stay involved! -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ P.O. Box 130, St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609 ------ End of Forwarded Article

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something some of your members might be interested in (fwd)
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 26 Aug '03

26 Aug '03

Just passing along something we received. MUUG is not in any way affiliated with this presentation, but I thought it might be of interest to you. For more information, check out the web site, and contact the appropriate people listed therein... Forwarded message: > From rpjday(a)mindspring.com Tue Aug 26 09:08:42 2003 > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:50:03 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)mindspring.com> > X-X-Sender: rpjday(a)localhost.localdomain > To: program(a)muug.mb.ca > Subject: something some of your members might be interested in > > http://www.ewh.ieee.org/reg/7/www_winnipeg/gold/ > > rday On behalf of your friendly neighborhood MUUG board... -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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sign your name to support the Canadian SCO response
by bill traynor 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

If you would like to publicly support the work of the Canadian Linux Interests Coalition (CLIC) in organizing a Canadian response to SCO's attacks, you can now do so -- visit http://www.linux.ca/clic/endorse.shtml to learn how. Three Ottawa/Carleton LUG members have already stepped forward, and the more endorsements CLIC has--from across Canada--the better we can show a united oppostion to SCO. Thanks Bill Traynor

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Canadian LUGs and SCO
by bill traynor 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

In light of the recent response by the Australian Open Source community to the SCO issue, talks have been taking place at the Ottawa/Carleton LUG whether the Canadian Open Source community should respond as well. I recently received the following from Dave, at OCLUG: Over on OCLUG's board-of-directors mailing list, we have been discussing changing the LUG's approach to SCO's nonsense -- see http://oclug.on.ca/archives/oclug-board/2003-July/004550.html . I'm wondering if other Canadian LUGs might collectively be thinking along the same lines? If so, perhaps our LUGs can cooperate on some sort of action(s) to oppose what the SCO Group are doing. If we need *one* place to meet and discuss this, may I suggest #clue-talk on irc.freenode.net ? So, if anyone wants to join us on Freenode, channel #clue-talk and/or join the discuss(a)linux.ca mailing list here: http://www.ss.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss/ I'm sure the discussions will be good. There is also a WIKI page in the works. Thanks Bill Traynor Canadian Linux Users Exchange

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Free Apple Seminar: Unix Inside, Mac Outside
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

Howdy folks! I received the following from Doug Hamilton (who has given a couple presentations at MUUG meetings on Mac OS X), and thought it would be of interest the the Mac fans in the group. Please contact Doug (and not me) if you have any questions about the seminar... -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca> Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:40:28 -0500 Subject: Please forward to MUUG ... From: Doug Hamilton <hamilto(a)cc.UManitoba.CA> To: Gilbert Detillieux <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca> Hi Gilbert, If you feel its appropriate, could you please forward the following to the MUUG mailing-list (see below) ? Thanks, Doug ### Well its official, the BookStore and Apple Canada are pleased to be able offer a FREE Apple seminar entitled "Unix Inside, Mac Outside". This seminar will take place on: July 22nd, 2003, and will run from 1:00PM to approximately 4:00PM; in room 343 Drake Centre at the University of Manitoba - Fort Garry campus. This seminar will be of value to professional and casual programmers, as well as directors and managers, who wish to understand what is possible with modern development tools. Steve Hayman, based out of Toronto but employed by Apple Computer, Inc. (Cupertino, California), is a National Consulting Engineer and has worked for Apple for 10 years. He will demonstrate Mac OS X and what its Unix core coupled with powerful object oriented developer tools can offer. Steve comes highly recommended as a presenter, and as a programmer. His been developing applications on Mac OS X since it was called NeXTSTEP. While Mac OS X development seminars have been previously presented in Winnipeg, none of them have been provided by a developer. This seminar will be kicked off by Randy Kokesch, who will be providing an brief overview of successful Canadian Foundation for Innovation (CFI) grant applications, which have requested Apple hardware and software solutions. This will be followed by Steve Hayman's presentation, "Unix Inside, Mac Outside", to be concluded with a Q&A period. If you would like to register for this seminar, please use the URL below to jump to the Apple Seminars listing for this event: http://www.seminars.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/ASPRegistration.woa/3/ wa/eventsByStateAndCity?state=MB&city=Winnipeg If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me. ###

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