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GPS & Mapping Presentation PDF's
by Shawn Wallbridge 12 Oct '05

12 Oct '05

For those of you interested, I have put the PDF's of the slides from my presentations online... http://www.winnipegmapping.org/presentations/ shawn

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Adding second NIC - RH 7.1
by Raymond J. Henry 10 Oct '05

10 Oct '05

>From time to time, I have to UL a lot of stuff to my server (tonight, 12GB). Because of this, I'm wondering about dropping 1000MB NIC's into my XP system and the server, and running a separate dedicated connection between them. I don't want to spend the money to replace my switch, that's why I'm thinking separate network. I'm running RH 7.1 w/kernel 2.4.20-24.7. If I go ahead with this, I'm thinking the D-Link DGE-530T (http://www.dlink.com/products/resource.asp?pid=284&rid=879&sec=0) because of the price, and D-Link's indication it should work with my kernel. Anyone run one of these cards in a system similar to mine? Of course, I'd like this to be a painless as possible, so the other issue would be trying to have the existing NIC remain as eth0, so I don't have to mess with anything there. Any suggestions/ideas/flames?

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Re: [RndTbl] drive partitioning for Linux install
by Mike Pfaiffer 10 Oct '05

10 Oct '05

On October 9, 2005 02:45 pm, Dan Martin wrote this amazing epistle: > Mike Pfaiffer wrote: > >On October 8, 2005 09:05 pm, Trevor Cordes wrote this amazing epistle: > >>On 4 Oct, Dan Martin wrote: > >>>It turns out that my BIOS and ATA interface cannot handle HDs bigger > >>>than 137 GB, so I am switching my new larger drives to another computer > >>>and using its drives in the P3 - ie, lots of copying drives and > >>>partitions. > >> > >>The easiest way to get big drives working on even ancient computers is > >>get a PCI IDE card. Many options are available in the $40-$60 range and > >>they almost all work with linux OOB. As for SATA, I've had nothing but > >>grief with cheap SATA cards and would recommend staying away from them, > >>esp if you're using FC which seems to be the worst for SATA. > > > > The USB solution I mentioned a while ago works on fairly new machines. It > > may work on older machines as well (I haven't tried it yet). A friend > > running M$ said he tried a 200GB drive under ME and it would only see 137 > > GB as well. He ended up returning it for a 120. Later he got another 200 > > (internal this time) ME only saw the 137 GB like before, but Chris and I > > managed to get Linux installed on the rest of the drive. It worked until > > he had to reinstall ME. Since 137 GB seems to be common, there may be a > > possibility putting the big drive in a USB box (again around $40.00) > > could get around the limitation of the BIOS as long as it's not a M$ > > drive. > > I have a 200 GB IDE drive in a USB box. The old machine sees it > perfectly under Windows (and presumably under Linux). I am pretty sure > that I cannot boot from it, so I got 2 WD 120GB internal drives that I > am having some adventures with. Booting depends on the BIOS. It'll have to be a newer one. For storage I find it great. If speed isn't essential it's a decent alternative. It doesn't involve taking the machine apart and the power source is external. > The USB will come in very handy, however. When I get the hang of the dd > command and make sure that I'm not using it in such a way that I trash > my systems, I will use it to ghost a copy of my laptop harddrive to a > file on the USB HD. Never used dd much. I got it to work half the time (my fault it didn't work the other half). If your laptop drive is only used for data (ie. you don't care about the image booting or you'd prefer a fresh OS each time) you can just use the cp command. I recall a few years back someone at one of the meetings was mentioning a ghost command for Linux. Later Mike -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------

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creating image file
by millward 09 Oct '05

09 Oct '05

I'm trying to create an image file from a CD mounted in a CD burner /DVD ROM drive, but I keep getting error messages when dd tries to read the CD disk. I'm using the dd command: dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=/temp/my_image.img bs=18k or dd if=/dev/hdb of=/temp/my_image.img bs=18k My operating system is Red Hat 9 installed in hda9. The cdrom does not have scsi emulation. I removed that command from the Grub boot because I got worse error messages when it was in effect. The drive is defined in /etc/fstab as: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 The error messages all look like this: hdb: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error} error=0x54 Is there another way to create an image file from a CD without dd?

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Re: [RndTbl] drive partitioning for Linux install
by Dan Martin 09 Oct '05

09 Oct '05

It turns out that my BIOS and ATA interface cannot handle HDs bigger than 137 GB, so I am switching my new larger drives to another computer and using its drives in the P3 - ie, lots of copying drives and partitions. The dd command has worked well, and saves me a lot of time compared to copying in DOS. Thanks. I have 2 other problems: 1) I need to copy a primary partition on one drive to a logical partition on another. I assume that if I do something like this: # dd if=/dev/hdc3 of=/dev/hda7 bs=1M that the boot sector of the primary will overwrite partition info in the boot sector of the logical partition, destroying extended partition info. Is there a way around this? If I create the logical partition with Partition Magic under DOS and copy into it, skipping the first sector, will that work? 2) I also installed Linux in my P4. When Linux complained it couldn't read the partition tables for sda, I let it rewrite them, thinking this was the new drive I put in. Instead, it was my serial ATA drive array. I have it configured to show up as one large drive under Windows. A large number of ATI video files were stored on the drive, which shows up in Linux as 2 drives (unallocated) and continues to show up in Windows as 1 drive - but now unallocated. The original drive was partitioned as a single FAT32 partition for the whole drive. My guess is that the data is still intact, and could be recovered if I put the right partition info onto the boot sector. Is there a simple way to recover this? If I created a new FAT32 partition in the "unallocated" space using Partition Magic in DOS or Windows, is that likely to recover the data? Also having some boot problems, but I think I can get around that. As a newbie, I'm getting into a little more than what Disk Druid can handle for me. John Lange wrote: >There was a lot of detail there but I think if I understand your problem >correctly you are trying to occationally replicate data between 2 >partitions? > >The linux command "dd" is typically used for these kinds of >applications. I think someone mentioned it in a previous email on this >topic? > >dd does not care what data is on the drive, if its mounted or in use, or >about partitions or anything of the sort. The only time dd will fail is >when it encounters an error while trying to read or write. > >So, a brief example would be: > ># dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb2 bs=1M > > > -- -Dan Dr. Dan Martin, MD, CCFP, BSc, BCSc (Hon) GP Hospital Practitioner Computer Science grad student ummar143(a)cc.umanitoba.ca (204) 831-1746 answering machine always on

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Another followup to HFS+ partition on a USB drive
by Mike Pfaiffer 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

Not a problem. Just a followup. Last night I had a friend format the area I reserved for Mac stuff on the hard drive. It was formatted HFS+. The Mac mounts it and the M$ partitions fine. The Mac sees the ext3 fs as a UFS (Unix File System) drive and does not mount it. Linux doesn't see the HFS+ partition. The hardware browser program in Fedora 2 says there is no file system on the partition. I haven't tried it under M$ yet. Past experience says it will only see the FAT32 partition. So far this drive seems to be happy with what I throw on it. Apart from the HFS+, everything is EASY to do with Linux. Later Mike -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------

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Video DVD question
by Mike Pfaiffer 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

The end result is I want to burn a video DVD I can throw in a console unit. Here is what I've done so far... I've obtained a sample video file from the net (an AVI I think). I ran a program called videotrans to translate into a VOB file. MPlayer plays them both. Then I used a package called dvdauthor to take the VOB file and create a directory structure as well as the IFO and BUP files. It turns out I have to change the permissions of everything created by this package to 777 or I get a certain set of errors. Next I tried both k3b and (I think - this was over a month ago) growisofs separately to see if anything will burn. Apparently there were problems with the Fedora version of the cdrecord package so I updated it from the source. Both programs choke. The messages seem to be related to file names. I tried altering the names to what it said was missing to see if it would help. No joy. Am I close? If so, what am I missing? Is there a better way of doing this? Later Mike -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------

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MUUG Meeting, Oct 11, 7:30pm -- GPS & Mapping with Open Source Tools
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

[Posted to man.unix.general and other news groups] ------ Forwarded Article <di0ujb$jnd$1(a)canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> ------ From gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, October 11. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: GPS & Mapping with Open Source Tools, Part 2 If you have ever been lost (and who hasn't), you will know just how important it is to know exactly where you are. With a handy little GPS unit, you can know exactly where you are in the world down to a few meters at the push of a button. In Part 2 of last month's presentation, Shawn Wallbridge will present on web-based mapping. He will primarily be covering Mapserver, a web-based mapping application by the University of Minnesota. This month is also the annual general meeting, where the new MUUG board will be elected. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may not get in. (But don't come too early either, since security may not be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Limited parking is available for free on the street, or in a lot across Ellice from IBM, for $1.00 for the evening. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $2.00 for the evening. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Also note that MUUG maintains two mailing lists, called "muug-announce" and "roundtable". If you're not already on these lists, we encourage you to subscribe now: http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/ The "muug-announce" list is used for monthly meeting announcements (such as this one) as well as other important announcements of interest to MUUG members. The "rountable" list is meant to be a forum for follow-ups to topics discussed at the meetings, or for round-table-style discussion on other topics that come up between meetings. Of course, for this to be effective, we need to reach a certain critical mass. So, please subscribe, and stay involved! -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ P.O. Box 130, St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609 ------ End of Forwarded Article

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Quick question about formatting a Mac partition under Linux
by Mike Pfaiffer 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

How? I'm able to do Linux and M$ partitions successfully on my PC with Fedora 2. I want to see how to do it so I can write an article on it. I'll admit to only a one hour google search today (I was so happy to get ANYTHING working I had to test it as soon as I could). I found a lot of pages referring to Linux on the Mac and a bunch of pages saying they were out of date with the 2.4 kernel. I *should* be able to test the Mac/HFS partition this weekend. The odd thing is if I had the USB card for my Apple// I could format it there... Unfortunately I've already blown a bunch of money on the new harddrive (on sale at Itech) and USB box. Later Mike -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------

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Need a CPU upgrade
by Kevin McGregor 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

This is not a Unix-related question (yet), but I was wondering if anyone on this list knew of a vendor who can get 1 GHz Pentium 3 (Slot 1) CPUs for a Compaq ProLiant DL380 3U rack-mount server. We have this server at work with a single 733 MHz P3, and it's dual-capable. Our "Preferred" vendor is Insight Canada, and they want $ 2,641 for a 1 GHz P3. Yep, more than the cost of a new server or two for a stinkin' 5.5-year-old CPU which was US$990 at introduction! And I know they're available for less than $100 on eBay. Apparently <someone much higher up in the organization> thinks a 97% discount would look bad if it became public that we bought something via eBay. So, any suggestions?

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