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ZUM mail list
by Montana Quiring 17 Dec '06

17 Dec '06

Hello, MUUG has graciously setup a mailing list for the "Zaurus Users of Manitoba" (a.k.a. ZUM). We're a small group (fourish) but if you would like to participate in discussions or even just lurk, we would be happy to have you join us. To subscribe please visit: http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/zum If you have problems subscribing, please email me directly. -Montana

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File transfer question
by Mike Pfaiffer 16 Dec '06

16 Dec '06

I'll admit to searching for a solution for less than a half hour on this one. If anybody has a solution *handy*, please let me know. I'll continue the search later as I get more time. (At least I have all my XMas shopping done) Situation: I've learned enough to give a demo to the MWCS about setting up a home LAN and rudimentary networking. I've set up an OS X (10.2.6) box as an ftp, ssh, Apache, and file server. I plan on demonstrating how to do the set up, test the connections, actually connect, setting up a web page, file transfer with various programs (including fuse), etc.. I haven't figured out to use Samba but there are a couple people who have used it and would be willing to take that part of the presentation. Over all I have enough material to keep them happy for a couple of meetings. The problem: I'd like to add a bit of a bonus. I'd like to show how to transfer files from an HTML document. When I had set up Apache on a Linux box, it worked. On the Mac, I can transfer files with an ftp client and fuse so I know that part works. It seems I am denied access when trying to transfer through HTTP. I changed the http:// tag to ftp:// and it complained about not allowing anonymous ftp. I found something on the net about setting up anonymous ftp, but it was a procedure which looked like it would take a couple of hours to implement. I'm not sure if I'm chasing wild geese or not. The advantage to using the Mac for the demo is it causes less panic in some of the older members than does Linux. I suppose I can bring in the Linux box to talk about the file transfer stuff using HTTP for a later meeting. The future: Eventually I'd like to do something quick on Bittorrent both on a LAN and the internet. Later Mike

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used computer parts
by Trevor Cordes 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

For those asking about used computer parts at the meeting last night. My used parts list is at: http://www.tecnopolis.ca/forsale/forsalec.html It's a bit messy (legacy system) but the details are accurate, and you can always search it with google's site:tecnopolis.ca option. The prices are totally flexible; most fair offers accepted. I can provide gaurantees/warranties and even trial periods on all parts. (Please, help me regain some shelf space!)

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connect mts.net <-> Linux, Solved
by Andrew Charles Grant 11 Dec '06

11 Dec '06

Took me nearly a year to figure out, I just had to enable "Stupid Mode", then I was able to connect. Perhaps pppd should suggest that on its own.. (Sorry I posted my question about connecting to the wrong address..) -acg

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Winnipeg Zaurus Meetup #3
by Montana Quiring 07 Dec '06

07 Dec '06

Hey, We are getting together for our 3rd monthly Winnipeg Zaurus MeetUp. We welcome whoever would like to join in. It's a very informal even, so no pressure. You don't even need to have a Zaurus to come. What is a Zaurus? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharp_Zaurus The plan is to meet every second Sunday of the month. This makes Sunday Dec 10th @ 2:00 pm our next meeting. We are meeting at Altos (in CanadInns, 1824 Pembina Highway). Google map: http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=canad+inns,+winnipeg,+manitoba&ie=UT… IIRC, there's no real sign saying Altos so just go into the Hotel and look around or ask someone. Check this OESF thread for updates: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22123 Want to know what we chatted about in the last meeting?: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21884&view=findpost&p=146143 Let me know if you have any questions. -Montana

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NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, yikes!
by Montana Quiring 05 Dec '06

05 Dec '06

I've been playing with Solaris over the past year but I would like to get more experience with UNIX. There seems to be three (correct me if I'm wrong) main players in the BSD playing field. Can someone briefly give a semi-layman, semi-tech explaination of the differences between NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD? >From reading their web pages and googling they all seem to pride themselves on security. I think it's NetBSD that prides its self on having the most portability and tightly written code, the downside being they are not the most current when it comes to supporting new hardware, etc. I'm looking to use a BSD to create a secure web server and maybe OpenLDAP as well. This would be for a production environment and not just tinkering. Xen compatability would also be a bonus.

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MUUG Meeting, Dec 12, 7:30pm -- Round-table and Holiday Mingle
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 05 Dec '06

05 Dec '06

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, December 12. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Round-table and Holiday Mingle As the year winds down, it's time for MUUG to take things at a more relaxed pace. So, we'll allow the round-table discussion to go a bit longer (rather than cutting it short as we sometimes have to), then instead of a very short coffee break, we'll have a more laid-back mingler with some holiday treats and more time for informal discussion. Not sure if the fat guy in red will show up, but rumour has it there will be some gifts given out... So, whether you've been naughty or nice this year, don't miss out on the fun! The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may not get in. (But don't come too early either, since security may not be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Limited parking is available for free on the street, either on Ellice Ave. or on some of the intersecting streets. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $3.00 for the evening. Bicycle parking is available in a bike rack under video surveillance located behind the building on Webb Place. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Also note that MUUG maintains two mailing lists, called "muug-announce" and "roundtable". If you're not already on these lists, we encourage you to subscribe now: http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/ The "muug-announce" list is used for monthly meeting announcements (such as this one) as well as other important announcements of interest to MUUG members. The "rountable" list is meant to be a forum for follow-ups to topics discussed at the meetings, or for round-table-style discussion on other topics that come up between meetings. Of course, for this to be effective, we need to reach a certain critical mass. So, please subscribe, and stay involved! -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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re: wifi access ...
by Dan Keizer 05 Dec '06

05 Dec '06

You can check out: http://les.net/products/product_wpgwifi.php if Les still has it operating .. I haven't checked in a while, but it was up a while back ... Dan.

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greylisting
by Trevor Cordes 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

After domain keys, I implemented the milter-greylist that Gilbert was talking about. It's pretty easy (on FC, with yum packages). Anyone care to compare notes? I've chosen the following values: timeout 25h greylist 6m autowhite 30d subnetmatch /24 Does anyone think there could be an MTA retarded enough to have the queue retry time set to longer than 25h? The greylist default was 5d, but that seems a bit excessive, or am I missing something here? As for the greylist option, shouldn't 1m be enough to do the trick? Either a spammer will retry or it won't, how long you make it wait should not matter. Of course, once everyone implements greylisting, then all spammers will simply start retrying -- it's only CPU cycles, and those keep getting cheaper. I suppose setting greylist to 30m or 60m or something might stop some spammers who are now waiting, but not very long. But that's got to be rare. autowhite should be set pretty high IMO. My only complaint with the greylist concept is the fact that at the end of the conf file is: # This is a list of broken MTAs that break with greylisting. This is like me adding mailertable entries for every domain that RBL's my dyanmic IP (which I do, but the list is getting unwieldly). It's a can't-win scenario. Too bad there are MTA's out there that are so braindead. Of course, some of them like AOL aren't necessarily braindead, but instead are hard to greylist because of the common-pool problem. That's why I set subnetmatch to /24 which should be fairly safe (since we're still checking to/from/ip tuples, not just IP). But that's just a big kludge, and there appears to be no immediate easy solution to the problem. Unless... change hte subnetmatch to /16 (or even /0??) and rely more on the to/from tuple. Why not? Most spams use random to/froms. Not ideal, but /0 would get around the braindead/pool problem while still providing some greylist benefit. I'm going to keep an eye on stats on my boxes to see how this greylisting impacts things, and I may report back.

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Re: [RndTbl] WiFi in Winnipeg
by Montana Quiring 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Thanks for the info about Twist, but it looks like they aren't open on Sundays which is when we are wanting to meet. Any other suggestions, please? Thanks, -Montana On 11/30/06, Rob Olivier <rolivier(a)mts.net> wrote: > The Twist, on Graham ave, does have free WiFi > > http://www.twistcafe.com/index.asp > > Nice place too. > > Rob O > > > > On Thu, 2006-30-11 at 07:45 -0600, Montana Quiring wrote: > > Does anyone know of a restaurant in Winnipeg (central preferred) that > > has free WiFi? > > If not then has anyone tried one of the pay services, like at > > Starbucks, and what was your experience? > > Thanks. > > -Montana > > _______________________________________________ > > Roundtable mailing list > > Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable >

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