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Re: [RndTbl] Fwd: Security camera install course at Skullspace
by Adam Thompson 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

Whoops. Forgot to double-check where my reply was going to, sorry about that. -Adam Adam Thompson <athompso(a)athompso.net> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Roundtable mailing list >Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca >http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable

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Counterfeit ATCom CAT5 (CCA) from CBIT
by Colin Stanners 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

I had a few 'cat5e' runs at AW that were exhibiting strange issues - PoE didn't work well, more at the device power-on where you'd expect a surge of current. Crimps seemed really sensitive. Generally communication over them 'felt' off. I bypassed them and guessed it was wire damage from the construction but as I'm taking them down they seem undamaged. I had heard of CCA 'fake cat5' before, http://www.twistedpair.co/caution-using-cooper-clad-aluminium-cat5-cable/ but never seen any. Scraped some of the wires and to my untrained eye it seems these are CCA. We can keep using them for analog cameras - didn't see any problems there yet - but nothing else. These came from 3 boxes of 'ATcom NWC-215-313' that were bought at CBIT. I'm assuming fake products like this are one of the reasons they're out of business now, but if you have any boxes sitting around you may want to toss them.

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Re: [RndTbl] Fwd: Security camera install course at Skullspace
by Adam Thompson 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

I'm not sure if you wanted RSVPs, but I plan to be there. -Adam Colin Stanners <cstanners(a)gmail.com> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Roundtable mailing list >Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca >http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable

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Fwd: Security camera install course at Skullspace
by Colin Stanners 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

I'm not sure anyone in your groups would be interested, but just in case: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Colin Stanners <cstanners(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 9:40 PM Subject: Security camera install course at Skullspace To: announce(a)lists.skullspace.ca, "discuss(a)lists.skullspace.ca" < discuss(a)lists.skullspace.ca> As there's a bit of interest, I'll be doing a class this Wednesday (April 10th) at 7pm on installing security cameras and related systems. Everyone who comes gets a free b&w camera as long as I have stock. -General overview: analog and digital systems -settings on cameras -capture cards and software on PCs -mounting, wire running

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MUUG Meeting, Apr 9, 7:30pm -- Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, April 9. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization, based on the open-source oVirt platform, competes with VMware vSphere and Hyper-V's Operations Manager. The University of Winnipeg Library is implementing a small RHEV system, and Adam Thompson will introduce and demonstrate the software and discuss some of the challenges encountered as compared to using VMware vSphere. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ****************************************************************** Please note our *NEW* meeting location: Room 1L08, Lockhart Hall, University of Winnipeg, entrance on Ellice Ave. between Spence St. and Balmoral St. Parking is available on the surrounding streets and in the lots on nearby streets. Look for signage once you're at the building, or ask a security guard. ****************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Load-balancing / dual-WAN / multi-WAN routers or other solutions
by Hartmut W Sager 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

Now THIS should get a discussion going. What's the latest on load-balancing / dual-WAN / multi-WAN routers? I only see two kinds - some very old D-Link (DI-LB604) and Cisco (RV042, RV082, RV016) models, and quite a few current models from completely unheard of Oriental companies. My actual purpose would be failover redundancy (between my two Internets, namely MTS and Shaw) at least as much as, or more so, than load balancing, but there might as well be load balancing too, since both Internets are up almost all the time. I'm also somewhat interested in hearing about other related solutions (like a separate computer with multiple NIC's for multi-WAN, and special Linux, acting as a router) if no suitable router exists (or if such a router costs too much). Hmmm, Raspberry Pi just has one network port, right? Hartmut Sager

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Summer project
by Mike Pfaiffer 31 Mar '13

31 Mar '13

Sorry if this is a little disjointed. I'm half asleep (which is usually when I get ideas - always a dangerous thing especially when I'm half asleep). ;-) Every summer the CLL at the Aboriginal Centre shuts down for the month of August. Normally I ask the owners of the parent company (a recycler) if I can borrow some equipment for both July and August so I can learn more about specific computer related things. Normally they are topics discussed here or at the MUUG meetings. I know it is only almost April but why wait until the last second... The owners (Alvin and Karen) usually like me to have some clear goals in mind when I propose a project. As a result I thought I'd bounce a few ideas off the pros and semi-pros here... Thanks to Rob D. I think I finally have my head wrapped around the concept of port forwarding. A couple of months ago he asked me to set up a Minecraft server for development purposes and so far things seem to work. My current physical assets are a D-Link 655 wireless router, and a (Debian) LAMP server running on a G4 server (which I should update soon), a USB "N" dongle which may or may not work, a Mac Mini which can connect to the router via the "G" protocol, and an external antenna for the router. Oh and I have those two Check Point wired routers. Chris H. says when the router is running the "N" protocol in the house the range is the edge of the property in the front and can not be picked up from the back. Inside the house was no problem. The router was located on the ground floor near the front of the house. The guys from the seniors radio club think it might be because of the stucco on the house. I could re-position the antenna to be in front of the front window. Anyhow the ideas I had were to try a bit more on the port forwarding thing by having second machine connected to the router and use the router as the main method of connecting to the services I am running. As before this would not be connected to the internet. The method I used last time was to connect to the IP of the LAMP server (eg. 192.168.X.Y instead of the router at 192.168.X.1 port 80). Then I'd try to extend the range to the back yard by using a second router at the back of the house. The second router would get the wireless signal from the first and repeat it. I'd like to know if there are any routers, custom built or out of the box, which will say transmit with the "G" AND "N" protocols as opposed to the "G" OR "N" protocols. The D-Link router will allow the first connection to determine subsequent connections. For example of the first connection is a "G" connection those wishing to connect with the "N" protocol only will not be able to do so. My temporary solution is to limit the router to "N" only. This means my Mac Mini can't connect since it doesn't support "N". With some fancy wiring I suppose I could use a couple of wireless routers together and have each do a different protocol. Since the Lab is switching the classroom to Windows 7 and half the machines are running cards which don't have new drivers (and don't work) I may be able to snag some "G" cards for testing under Linux. Are there any G/N cards people here would recommend to the parent company? I'm thinking if they are going to order a bunch they may as well order some spares (and I can use one for testing). So far I'm looking to request a PC (to run Ubuntu Server and Minecraft) and an "N" router. Maybe a couple of PCI NICs and another external antenna. Do folks here think my ideas are clear enough to bring to the owners? I had half a dozen more ideas when I started but forgot most of them when I turned on the computer. ;-) Is there anything more which would be worth checking out given I am a slow learner with a high level of frustration at the moment? Later Mike

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determine IP address in linux
by Trevor Cordes 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

Seems simple. What's the best way (in a script) to get the IP address of an ethernet interface (in linux). For instance eth0. I used to have (perl, but also applies as a bash solution): $eip=`/sbin/ifconfig $int | grep 'inet addr' | awk '{print \$2}' | sed -e 's/.*://'` But the latest upgrade from F16 to F17 broke this (now the line contains "inet" but not "inet addr". So I started thinking of finding the most standardized way that (hopefully) won't change after a future kernel upgrade :-) It would seem that the less field parsing done, the better, as keywords and field position aren't guaranteed. Looks like ifconfig is now deprecated (according to man ifconfig). So now I'm doing: $eip=`ip -o -4 addr list eth0 | awk '{print \$4}'` That works now, but it still has a output format-dependent requirements. I looked for /sys or /dev files, but can't find any that have ip4 addr. I tried to find more options to whittle ip's output to give me just the address, no joy there. Ideas? PS: this is important as failures like this force me to drive out onsite to headless boxes, some of which are 200km away.

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PPPoE/pppd dying
by Trevor Cordes 24 Mar '13

24 Mar '13

I have a script that starts/restarts PPPoE/pppd (MTS aDSL) as required on a box. It used to work A-OK. After updates w ehil back (probably from Fedora 14 -> 16 I think) a weird thing started happening: When my script is stopped (to be restarted after an update for instance), it instantly kills pppd and so my pppoe connection. pppd[1572]: Terminating on signal 15 pppd[1572]: Connect time 7.5 minutes. pppd[1572]: Sent 136980 bytes, received 76924 bytes. pppd[1572]: Connection terminated. pppoe[1573]: read (asyncReadFromPPP): Session 14782: Input/output error pppoe[1573]: Sent PADT pppd[1572]: Exit. sig 15 is SIGTERM. I can see before this happens that the processes involved are at the root owned by init (ps 1): root 4393 1 0 17:30 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /sbin/pppoe-connect /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 root 4417 4393 0 17:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/pppd pty /usr/sbin/pppoe -p /var/run/pppoe-adsl.pid.pppoe -I eth0 -T 60 -U -m 1412 ipparam ppp0 linkname ppp0 noipdefault noauth default-asyncmap defaultroute hide-password nodetach mtu 1492 mru 1492 noaccomp nodeflate nopcomp novj novjccomp user thesuer lcp-echo-interval 20 lcp-echo-failure 3 nobody 4418 4417 0 17:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/pppoe -p /var/run/pppoe-adsl.pid.pppoe -I eth0 -T 60 -U -m 1412 One would think that if it's been "daemonized" to be owned by init then killing the calling script would not affect it. But it is. What my script actually call is ifup and then Fedora's network magic in turn calls pppoe/pppd. ifup itself exits right after doing this (which is probably why its children become children of init). I tried adding a nohup before the ifup, but it doesn't help. I guess that makes sense since it's SIGTERM, not SIGHUP. I'm out of ideas to make sure this stuff stays up after restarting my script, and don't know what could have changed in Fedora to make this happen. Thanks!

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snail mail spam ...
by Dan Keizer 22 Mar '13

22 Mar '13

Tried but true method I guess .. but .. did anyone else get postal mail from domain.com (co-sponsored by google)? it is regarding their ad-words. (usual, sign-up by x-date and receive y-$'s in return for spending z-$'s). Seems google wants to have companies with existing customer relationships to sell their adwords - several other companies are doing it with google too. No biggie if I already have some form of relationship with them... But, I have nothing to do with these 'domain.com' people - looks like they're just blasting out snail-mail to registered domain holders? Dan.

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